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steveninseattle

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Zoe's beef with Hope
« on: July 12, 2018, 04:51:06 PM »

While it is always nice to have new characters on a show - and B&B is in desperate need of new blood - what is the deal with this Zoe character and what does she have against Hope?   Is she tired of the holier than thou, self-righteous, martyr, rainbows and lollipops, beauty that is the character that everyone must worship, Hope?      Jeez, Zoe has only been on for 4 days!   She can't be that exhausted of Hope yet!   Give her another week.


And why are we supposed to care about these perky interns?    We have only met them a couple weeks ago and now they are being shoved down our throats with what is going to be another Fatal Attraction storyline - YAWN!   


Sorry for the rant - back to the original question - why did Zoe hack Sally's laptop to post terrorizing messages to Hope?   Lame - sorry Liam - Sally and Hope have nothing to do with Xander and Emma.


 
 

Jonathan

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Re: Zoe's beef with Hope
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2018, 06:03:35 PM »
I always hate it when new characters get crammed down our throats, and it reminds me of, in my opinion, the greatest soap writer of all Doug Marland and his rules for how not to ruin a soap.  If anyone has not seen those before I'm posting them below.  The thing is with this show most of the people involved should get the first few rules, since they have been with the show for so long.  This show pretty much always gets number seven wrong though, such is the case with Zoe and the other crop of new actors.  I just don't get it.  They should know better on here. 


I do have to disagree with you though Steveninseattle, If I had to spend a day with Hopeless I think she would exhaust me, Hell half an hour with her exhausts me.  I'm not sure why Zoe is doing this, but even more important, I don't think the writers know either. 





How Not To Wreck A Show By Douglas Marland

1. Watch the show.

2. Learn the history of the show. You would be surprised at the ideas that you can get from the back story of your characters.

3. Read the fan mail. The very characters that are not thrilling to you may be the audience's favorites.

4. Be objective. When I came in to As the World Turns, the first thing I said was, what is pleasing the audience? You have to put your own personal likes and dislikes aside and develop the characters that the audience wants to see.

5. Talk to everyone; writers and actors especially. There may be something in a character's history that will work beautifully for you, and who would know better than the actor who has been playing the role?

6. Don't change a core character. You can certainly give them edges they didn't have before, or give them a logical reason to change their behavior. But when the audience says, "He would never do that," then you have failed.

7. Build new characters slowly. Everyone knows that it takes six months to a year for an audience to care about a new character. Tie them in to existing characters. Don't shove them down the viewers' throats.

8. If you feel staff changes are in order, look within the organization first. P&G [Procter & Gamble] does a lot of promoting from within. Almost all of our producers worked their way up from staff positions, and that means they know the show.

9. Don't fire anyone for six months. I feel very deeply that you should look at the show's canvas before you do anything.

10. Good soap opera is good storytelling. It's very simple.

steveninseattle

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Re: Zoe's beef with Hope
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2018, 06:38:33 PM »
100% in agreement!   

SANDY B

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Re: Zoe's beef with Hope
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2018, 04:26:13 PM »
ATWT was one of the best written soaps EVER.  I would gladly give up B & B to have ATWT back.  Oh how I miss it.

Jonathan

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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2018, 06:14:23 PM »
I really wish the soaps of today would follow Marland's rules.  I was watching B and B today and just not getting into the new actors at all.  We need new blood on the show, but we need time to adjust to them before they are catapulted into a story. 

SANDY B

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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2018, 01:25:53 PM »
I really wish the soaps of today would follow Marland's rules.  I was watching B and B today and just not getting into the new actors at all.  We need new blood on the show, but we need time to adjust to them before they are catapulted into a story.
Exactly.  Zoe gets brought on BOOM    STALKER.  Problem is, Zander hasn't been on long enough to give a damn about him.  Nor has Emma.  I mean, it does beat the hell out of seeing Steffy interacting with Liam day after day, year after year. They are anything BUT a power couple.

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Re: Zoe's beef with Hope
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2018, 06:33:37 AM »
I really wish the soaps of today would follow Marland's rules.  I was watching B and B today and just not getting into the new actors at all.  We need new blood on the show, but we need time to adjust to them before they are catapulted into a story.
Exactly.  Zoe gets brought on BOOM    STALKER.  Problem is, Zander hasn't been on long enough to give a damn about him.  Nor has Emma.  I mean, it does beat the hell out of seeing Steffy interacting with Liam day after day, year after year. They are anything BUT a power couple.


The only good thing in all of this is that Zoe's character seems to have potential in a way that the other summer fill-ins doesn't.  Both she and Harry are better actors than the rest.  Of course, she did look super awkward on that runway...