Author Topic: What is the point?  (Read 378 times)

stpauliegirl

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What is the point?
« on: November 30, 2017, 07:54:23 PM »
Of Jack trying to create special Christmas memories with Dina?  First of all, she said didn't care much about Christmas.  She liked the parties, but left the rest up to Mamie to arrange when she was still married to John.  Second, she has alzheimers and isn't going to remember it long.  Wouldn't it be better for Jack to be consulting with specialists to see what treatments and therapy they could be doing to preserve Dina's faculties as long as possible?  The over the top Abbott Christmas just seems kind of dumb.

deirdra

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2017, 08:11:14 PM »
Jack is probably doing it for himself, to regain a sense of normalcy, though he thinks he is doing it for Dina.

katiesbeach

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2017, 08:18:20 PM »
I don't know why Jack feels so obligated to give his Mom any special memories.  She could have had a lifetime full of them if she hadn't left her family & children behind years ago.

DebR

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2017, 08:24:28 PM »
Jack is the closest to Dina and he missed her the most when she left the family.  I can see why he would want to have a nice Christmas with his mom, try to make up for Lost Times and what could have been.  Sad when you think about it.

Capricorn

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2017, 08:28:38 PM »
Could be that he just loves his mother regardless of the fact that she left her family years ago.  She has a serious disease that is going to take her memory and life away slowly over several years... he probably wants to make her happy now, today, tomorrow and all the days that he can before she doesn't know who he is.   As dierdra said maybe he's doing it for himself too.
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Billie

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2017, 08:54:15 PM »
I think Cap is right.  I think he's doing it for both of them while he still can.  I thought the scene at the end when she told him that she loved him and they embraced was very touching. I think they have a special bond, more so than with the other children.  On another note, Dina has a beatific smile. Her whole face lights up and she just looks rapturous.  She's become my favorite part of the show lately.

Ricky

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2017, 09:16:06 PM »
So that he can hold up his chin like Miss Barbara Stanwyck, smile between his tears, and announce, "I am going to make this the Best Abbott Christmas Ever!"   (It would be a shame not to, since he Joan Crawford-ed his way through The Best Thanksgiving Ever in a very similar vein.)   

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2017, 09:48:03 PM »
 :) :D ;D

lawgirl

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 02:38:53 AM »
I think Cap is right.  I think he's doing it for both of them while he still can.  I thought the scene at the end when she told him that she loved him and they embraced was very touching. I think they have a special bond, more so than with the other children.  On another note, Dina has a beatific smile. Her whole face lights up and she just looks rapturous.  She's become my favorite part of the show lately.


I agree.  The scene at the end made me tear up and I don't do that often with this show.  The actress has totally embraced this character and made her a multi-faceted woman, without having to be "showy".  In a part that many actresses would be over-acting, her performance is restrained and does not require histrionics.  Kudos to her.

stpauliegirl

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 07:21:52 AM »
I wasn't saying they shouldn't celebrate the holiday season, it just seems dumb for Jack to be going so over the top for someone who doesn't really care about it and probably won't remember it two weeks after it is over.

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2017, 09:53:39 AM »
So that he can hold up his chin like Miss Barbara Stanwyck, smile between his tears, and announce, "I am going to make this the Best Abbott Christmas Ever!"   (It would be a shame not to, since he Joan Crawford-ed his way through The Best Thanksgiving Ever in a very similar vein.)

Exactly.  This is classic Jack.  He does this every year.  I remember when he and Pattycakes' double, the psychiatrist he was dating, were sitting in the living room while Jack showed her the Abbott Christmas decorations, saying "These ornaments are filled with love," biting his lip and choking up.  That's our Jack.

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2017, 02:58:36 PM »
I've heard is said that funerals are for the living, not the dead. This might be a similar thing. True, Dina might soon forget the Christmas celebration, but it's good for Jack-- and he'll remember.

DianeM

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2017, 03:21:21 PM »
It's a shame that Traci isn't in GC more often.  I think she'd be a great help with Dina because she's always so compassionate.

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2017, 04:39:26 PM »
Yes bring back Traci for an extended stay.

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Re: What is the point?
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2017, 06:36:16 PM »
So that he can hold up his chin like Miss Barbara Stanwyck, smile between his tears, and announce, "I am going to make this the Best Abbott Christmas Ever!"   (It would be a shame not to, since he Joan Crawford-ed his way through The Best Thanksgiving Ever in a very similar vein.)


 ;D ;D ;D   i'm sorry, i know this is supposed to be a sweet story with dina and her family, and it is, it is, but jack kills it for me sometimes with is over the top drama queen self.